I got her number at some point and we would chat. I had been listening to “Dangerous Woman” a lot. How do you decide when you want to dip in, like doing the “Charlie’s Angels” song with Miley Cyrus and Ariana Grande?įirst of all, I really, really like Ariana. You dabble in pop, but at the same time, aren’t really a part of it. I wasn’t really thinking about the Taylor album and then it came out and then I was like, “Oh wow.” I didn’t really realize these were a week apart. Sometimes people want more from you than what you are giving, so let me step up to the plate a little bit and show up for my songs. But I do have to sometimes snap out of it and be like, oh, music changes, culture changes. My plan is having no plan, pretty much all the time, which actually works out very well for me.
I’m mostly at the beach! So, yeah, I was like, I better leave the house and go do something. Well, it certainly makes me think more about what the I’m doing with my life. Is there anything intimidating about putting out a Jack-produced album at the same time as Taylor Swift ? He plays the sitar on one of the last things we did! I feel like what I can do in terms of grabbing a melody out of the air, he can do with a very minor chord progression and just like, mmm, magical. I know a lot of producers who can’t play. But I didn’t even ask.ĭo you have a theory as to why so many female artists are drawn to working with him? The only thing I really thought about, toward the end, was that I’d like to have a woman from the ’60s just to add a little good luck magic. No, but honestly, inside the room, with Jack, he’s so much of a large presence that he took up as much of the space as I did. Did you consciously want to pull back again? You’ve become a pop star without interacting with or sounding much like your contemporaries, but on your last album, you worked with ASAP Rocky, the Weeknd and Max Martin. These are edited excerpts from the conversation. Over the phone from a friend’s house in California, where she finds it easier to get things done, Del Rey, 34, spoke easily, with sly humor and many giggles, about a range of subjects, from her creative process and Antonoff to Kanye West, Donald Trump and the dearth of protest music. Providing a good idea of where her head is at these days, Del Rey, in song, also references John Lennon, Led Zeppelin, the Beach Boys, David Bowie and Crosby, Stills & Nash, while maintaining flashes of Fiona Apple and Cat Power, a spiritual forebear and recent collaborator.
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